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Real Academy Vault

Conversations To Closings Mastermind

Hosted by: Robby T & Matt McKenzie



Real Academy Vault

Conversations To Closings Mastermind

Hosted by: Robby Trefethren & Matt McKenzie


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What's in it For Me?

Conversion happens in conversations—and Robby T and Matt McKenzie are here to show you how. Join them weekly for a powerful, live 1-hour session focused on mastering lead conversion, refining your conversation tactics, and building genuine relationships that lead to real results. Learn how to connect on a deeper level, handle objections with confidence, and turn conversations into closings. Whether you're nurturing new leads or deepening current ones, this class gives you the practical tools and scripts to grow your business through better dialogue.

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Robby Trefethren
Robby Trefethren, known as the “Lead Geek,” is a nationally recognized expert in lead conversion. He started as an ISA in 2013, making over 100,000 calls and contributing to nearly 500 closings in just three years. Robby is the architect behind Hatch ISA systems and messaging, used by over 400 top real estate teams across the country. As co-owner and coach at Hatch Coaching, he helps top-performing teams master lead conversion and build scalable systems. His people-first approach and proven strategies have made him one of the most trusted names in the industry. Robby continues to lead the way in how agents connect, convert, and close at a high level.
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Matt McKenzie
Matt McKenzie is a seasoned sales professional with over a decade of experience, including seven years as an ISA in real estate. He’s held more than 50,000 lead conversations, sharpening his communication skills into a true craft. As a leader of a high-performing 30-agent team in Denver, he helps guide 450–500 clients each year through successful moves. Matt is deeply committed to coaching and developing others, bringing real-world insight to every training. Outside of work, he’s a passionate golfer and drummer for Red Rocks Worship. He lives in Broomfield, CO with his wife, Rebecca.